Six In The Morning: Not Literally

1 OH, WE ONLY CLOSE THE NON-CHRISTIAN SCHOOLS The head of Regina’s public school board, which voted to close two schools last week for low enrolment, sends her own kids to a private an associate Christian school possibly similar to this one that charges between $2,570 and $6,594 in yearly tuition. “The issue is that she’s chosen with her feet to walk away from the public system, but she’s making these decisions that affect other people’s children in the city,” says school activist Bob Hughes in Emma Graney’s story.

2 ROGERS BUYS SCN Saskatchewan will get 700 per cent perkier with the arrival of City TV. And all we had to do was sell off our public broadcaster to a company that in turn flipped it to the cable giant for an undisclosed amount pending inevitable regulatory approval.

3 TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION HEARINGS CONTINUE Want to know what it was like in the government-funded, church-managed residential school system? People who lived through the often less-than peachy experience will share their stories through tomorrow.

4 CANADA’S PREMIERS SQUABBLE SOMEWHAT Provincial leaders aren’t happy with the federal government’s health care funding decrees but they differ in their degree of discontent.

5 CANADIAN SHOT REALLY, REALLY DEAD IN MEXICO Salid Abdulacis Sabas was shot nine times with .45 calibre bullets from a “high -powered rifle”. A connection to the drug trade is suspected. Good thing we’ve got a world-wide regime of scientifically-proven-effective drug prohibition, because if we didn’t this guy wouldn’t have to be dead.

6 IT’S ACTUALLY COLD Brrr! Bright side: I’m not constantly reminded that humans are breaking the climate every time I step outside.

BONUS NEWS: That cruise ship captain is in so much trouble, plus student journalists at The Sheaf got hella Norwalked like some Carillon counterparts, and is Stephen Harper implying that real Canadians like pipelines?, plus there hasn’t been a military coup in Pakistan yet, also the judge who ordered Chilean pieceofshit ex-dictator Pinochet to be arrested goes on trial, and Muhammad Ali turns 70, and hey, Canada has some espionage drama, plus Greek transportation workers strike to protest austerity measures, plus apparently it’s a good time to get a mortgage (as long as we don’t talk about overheated home prices), and here’s a cool story about Thailand’s high-flying ladyboys, also Mitt Romney and Ron Paul win Facebook, plus more freaky Ron Paul racial theories, plus there was another stupid Republican debate, and an independent panel will look into Japan’s Fukushima nuclear disaster, and Human Rights Watch says Canada should tell Ethiopia to smarten up, and finally, enjoy your Internet today–a lot of it will be turned off tomorrow to protest evil and stupid copyright legislation. And that includes Wikipedia.


Author: Stephen Whitworth

Prairie Dog editor Stephen Whitworth was carried to Regina in a swarm of bees. He's been with Prairie Dog since May 1999 and will die at his keyboard before admitting his career a terrible, terrible mistake.

25 thoughts on “Six In The Morning: Not Literally”

  1. #1: not true, Stephen. Ms. Gagne sends her kids to an associate school of the public system. There are 3 such schools: the Regina Christian School, the Regina Huda School (Muslim), and Harvest City Academy (Christian). All these schools operate under the umbrella of the Regina Board of Education, and their students, for per-pupil grant purposes, are counted by the government as public school students. The schools must follow the SK curriculum; the teachers must be qualified, and must be unionized; the school must accept any student who wishes to attend. Each associate school has a board of its own, which is concerned with maintenance of the physical plant, transportation, school policy other than that which applies from the governing division, etc.
    Associate schools have been around since the 1980s; when the Regina Christian School was accepted as the first in this school division, one of the trustees in favour was Dr. Conway. He took the tack that associate-school status allowed quality control of the education being offered – and the additional per-pupil grant was not to be sneezed at, either.
    With all the resources at your disposal, why does fact-checking take a back seat?

  2. Why are the “Associate Schools” not called public schools if they are as Ms. Gagne seems to imply, one and the same? And if they are so similar, why aren’t her children enrolled in the public system? Are the Separate schools also just Public schools? Why aren’t religious based schools under the umbrella of the separate school system. WTF?

  3. There is no implication in the article that public and Associate schools are “one and the same”. Associate schools are defined and regulated by the provincial government; you can look it up(you can also read my earlier comment).
    The separate school system is Catholic, supported by Catholic taxpayers, just as the public system is supported by non-Catholic taxpayers. To all intents and purposes, the separate system is a public system, because it has to operate under the education act, follow the SK curriculum, etc., etc. By law in SK, Catholic and public high schools are open-enrolment; i.e. they must enroll students who wish to attend regardless of which tax roll their parents are on. All public elementary schools are also open to whoever wishes to attend; in SK, many separate elementary schools accept non-Catholic students. Religious-based associate schools aren’t under the umbrella of the separate school system because that system quite logically sees no sense in offering associate-school status to entities that aren’t Catholic.
    Not every school that applies for associate-school status is accepted.

  4. Oh, yes, and in terms of tuition: associate schools are allowed to charge tuition (province’s rules), but they can also offer alternative fee structures and even fee waivers for less-advantaged families. The Regina Huda School does this almost to a fault.

  5. The point is that, contrary to what Mr. Hughes has said and Real Renewal hopes for, there is no conflict of interest here.

  6. dude, where’s your entry on the new Tom Horton’s cup sizes? EVERYBODY’S promoting that one!


    Isn’t it fun to poke fun at dead people?

  8. The issue is not who pays the teachers, or the curriculum. The issue is closing public schools on the basis of low enrollment while at the same time increasing the taxpayer subsidy of religious schools that have even lower enrollment. It’s a double standard at work. Ms. Gagne seems to have little problem with low enrollment schools for her own kids.

  9. Yootoobee “Dog Cat Rat”.

    The stupidity of religion and seperate “special needs ” don’t arise at all.

    For some fucking ,( using the word reason, would be really dissing the word reason ).

    The public can’t mix with the catlicks, musleams, & 4500 dead elephants. ( check the # of 2011 dead Rhino’s yerself ).

    For some stupid F-uped acid trip, I thought I heard, that certain “religions” are supposed to be forgiving.

    So Why Do You Be(W)itches need to keep segregating yourselves? What the F is wrong with “being public”?

    Martin L King’s Bday 1/15.

  10. Yootoobee “Dog Cat Rat”.

    The stupidity of religion and seperate “special needs ” don’t arise at all.

    For some fucking ,( using the word reason, would be really dissing the word reason ).

    The public can’t mix with the catlicks, musleams, & 4500 dead elephants. ( check the # of 2011 dead Rhino’s yerself ).

    For some stupid F-uped acid trip, I thought I heard, that certain “religions” are supposed to be forgiving.

    So Why Do You B(W)itches need to keep segregating yourselves? What the F is wrong with “being public”?

    Martin L King’s Bday 1/15.

  11. In the interests of fact-checking and accuracy, Ms. Saylor, to date RealRenewal has not made public comment on the matter under discussion, never mind accusing the board chair of conflict of interest. However, I share the general concern I’m hearing: the province is setting up a two-tier taxpayer-funded system, in which the choice of small school education is made available to children of privilege and denied to children of need. That’s the situation in a nutshell, plain and simple. You can dress it up or deny it as you please.

  12. Just for clarification, it is not the school division but the province that has authorized the increase of funding to associate schools and has provided conditional funding to private schools. As to size of the associate schools, all of them are bursting at the seams. Regina Christian bought the old Campion College building some years ago, and it got crowded quickly. Harvest City bought the former Sister McGuigan High School, and it’s filling up. Regina Huda bought the former Catholic elementary school on Sheppard Street, and in the years since has build an addition and added 3 portable classrooms. (The Huda School was founded by Muslims in part as a recruiting tool to bring medical and other professionals to Regina, who would not have come if they couldn’t get an Islamic education for their children. Not all Muslim students attend this school, but those who do are there for the Islamic atmosphere, just as Christians are at the Christian schools for the atmosphere – something some of the commentors on this page seem to have trouble with). The communities supporting these schools do a constant and enormous amount of fundraising to be able to afford these expansions, as well as to defray the costs for those who are less able to afford to attend.

    Ms. Elliott: I said nothing about statements, only about hope. As to your remark about “children of privilege”, I guess you wouldn’t know about how many Afghan and Somali refugee families have had tuition waived by the Huda School so that their children can attend, or about poor families, some of them Aboriginal (FN and Metis), who attend the Christian schools under similar waivers.

    When the province announced the funding changes referred to above, I was reminded again of Dr. John Conway’s main reason for supporting associate schools: quality control of the education offered to students attending these schools. I’m guessing that the ministry of education is of the same mind.

  13. Does anyone know what the enrollment is of Harvest City Christian School? Well, according to their website, they have 140 students from Kindergarten to grade 12. I wouldn’t say it is bursting at the seams. I would say it should be flagged for closure if one applies what the RBE argues is ideal sizes for learning. Why wouldn’t the RBE chair want her children in a system that ensures school sizes lead to optimum learning? She probably thinks smaller class size is somehow advantageous. How backward.
    As for hope, I’m pretty sure Ms. Saylor hopes that all inner-city schools be closed and the money saved be directed to suburban and associated schools.

  14. You’re entitled to your opinion, Ms Saylor, but you’ve falsely attributed something to RealRenewal that should be rescinded with apology. Speaking personally, I have nothing against associate schools, as you spent so many paragraphs implying. I merely observed what seems to be double standard at play in recent weeks. Now I have to get back to work, so go ahead and take as many last words as you like, as I’m sure you will.

  15. From the sounds of it, the Christian Associated Schools will provide scholarships for all of the inner city children affected by the school closures, so there’s really nothing to worry about.

  16. Mr. Jedlic ascribes motives to me and to Ms. Gagne on the basis of personal opinion, so I’d say that if there’s any apology due, it’s from him. As for Real Renewal: pot, kettle.
    People who are concerned about education in this province would be well advised to familiarize themselves with how it works, and something of its backstory. On this thread and in many other instances, it has been demonstrated that people do not know the difference between associate and private schools, or anything about the status of separate schools under the provincial constitution, or the gradual changes in education funding that have paved the way for the removal of taxing powers from school boards and the much-ballyhooed and long overdue new funding formula soon to come down the pike. They also don’t understand that changes happening over the last few years had their start under previous NDP governments. School division amalgamation? The studies began under Pat Atkinson. Some of the most dramatic changes occurred under then-Minister of Learning Andrew Thomson, one of them being the folding of line-item funding for some designated disabilities into the general grant to a school division. I’m given to understand that the same thing will be happening to designated community-school funding in the next budget. It’s all part of the long-term plan to divorce education funding from property taxes. These are things people need to know about.

  17. As for Ms. Saylor: pot,kettle. Ms. Saylor states that the group Realrenewall hope for a conflict of interest. I state that she hopes for the closure of inner city schools. Both assumptions are quite groundless. I’ll apologize, but you first, Ms. Saylor.
    And thanks for the history lesson on the funding and classification changes of schools in Sask. however I really don’t care which political party started them.

    I am curious about your personal opinion on class size though. Care to share?

  18. If Mr. Jedlic doesn’t care to be informed about education in his province, and how things got to be the way they are, and how they’re going, that’s on him. As to class size, it depends on the composition of the class. In other provinces (learner alert!), class size is negotiated at the provincial level. We may see that in Saskatchewan. Personal opinion.

  19. Here We go !!

    Yer kids have had 0 ,Zero, say as to were they might want go to be educated. Getting
    educated at some homes, isn’t working, apparently, by some home-teachers.
    They must be unionized, because un-unionisers (c) 2012, don’t spew the local( place # here ), Mantra fast enough.

    Wah! class size, was 42-45 in the ’70’s.

    Sort of a point,( a radio programme mentioned ), that in Japan ESL teachers face classes of over 100 students, Bullhorn,anyone?

    None of us learnned anything.

  20. I withdraw the phrase “and Real Renewal hopes for” in comment #6, acknowledging that, in the words of the organization’s spokesperson, “TO DATE [emphasis mine]RealRenewal has not made public comment on the matter under discussion, never mind accusing the board chair of conflict of interest” (comment #13).
    I regret any discomfort or inconvenience that may have been caused to Real Renewal.

  21. In comment 15, I would like to retract my comments about Ms. Saylor’s hopes. The statement is pointless and meaningless. Ms. Saylor is the only person who can correctly indicate what her hopes are. I am sorry for any irritation I may have caused Ms. Saylor.
    Peace, sister.

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