It’s Hotter, Weirder, Wetter, Dryer But Liars And Loons Still Play Denier

Al Jazeera:

“If you had a satellite view of the planet in the summer, there is about 40 per cent less ice in the Arctic than when Apollo 8 [in 1968] first sent back those photos [of Earth],” Bill McKibben, world renowned environmentalist and fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences told Al Jazeera, “Oceans are 30 per cent more acidic than they were 40 years ago. The atmosphere is four per cent more wet than 40 years ago because warm air holds more water than cold air. That means more deluge and downpour in wet areas and more dryness in dry areas. So we’re seeing more destructive mega floods and storms, increasing thunderstorms, and increasing lightning strikes.”

We should have started aggressively reducing carbon emmissions 20 years ago but the climate kooks, cranks and bullies blocked action (along with fossil fuel companies and their politicians). Even now a lot of people refuse to accept the reality of climate change.

I was in a crushingly depressing argument about this on Facebook a couple of weeks ago (yes, I am a huge lame-o who gets into hostile, pointless Facebook arguments). I posted a link to NASA’s climate science page to make the point that mainstream scientific agencies accept the theory of climate change. An invalid point, my Facebook nemesis, Todd, shot back. “What did your link prove or point to…nothing except your feeble appeal to authority. By the way, NASA has been wrong many times in the past, ask Christa McAuliffe.”

This from the jerk (why are so many jerks named Todd?) who’d just posted a link to an ugly-looking blog called “Hold The Mayo” that calls global warming a “pseudo-religion”.

And then other commentators told me “I lose credibility” when I swear at people and call them names.

My authority put people on the moon. Todd’s authority likes bland sandwiches. On the Internet, both authorities have equal weight in an argument. You can’t fucking win. Too many Toga-Todds diddling themselves while Rome burns.

(Thanks to PD Facebook fan Daniel Johnson for the Al Jazeera link.)

Author: Stephen Whitworth

Prairie Dog editor Stephen Whitworth was carried to Regina in a swarm of bees. He's been with Prairie Dog since May 1999 and will die at his keyboard before admitting his career a terrible, terrible mistake.

15 thoughts on “It’s Hotter, Weirder, Wetter, Dryer But Liars And Loons Still Play Denier”

  1. “(yes, I am a huge lame-o who gets into hostile, pointless Facebook arguments).”

    You still use Facebook? That’s so 2009.

    “mainstream scientific agencies accept the theory of climate change.”

    That Todd dude is right, so what if mainstream scientific agencies accept the theory? That does not make it correct. You might be old enough to remember this, back only 12 years ago mainstream scientific agencies accepted that there were no other planets in the universe outside our solar system. That was accepted scientific consensus for over 100 years. Once the first exo-planet was found, that theory quietly vanished immediately. It was like no one ever believed it in the first place, all of science was in complete denial that they had ever accepted it (the wierdest thing I have ever seen). It was established and accepted for 100 years, and it was just plain wrong.

  2. Wow, I’m staggered by the ignorance.

    What “klem” seems to misunderstand is the difference between science saying there’s no evidence for extra-solar planets (which there wasn’t until recently) and there are no extra-solar planets. Big difference. The consensus view of mainstream science has always been that the probability of them existing is pretty good. They just hadn’t figured out how to find them. They have now.

    I recommend, “klem”, you take some remedial science classes. You could start by watching Carl Sagan’s Cosmos.

    In it, Sagan talks quite a bit about the likelihood of planets and even life outside our solar system.

    He also talks at length about the ways humans are altering our environment, including how our CO2 emissions are causing global warming. And that was back in 1979.

  3. fun fact: an appeal to authority isn’t necessarily fallacious! it’s fallacious if you claim your source is infallible, but otherwise you have to treat it as, like, a source.

    if it was a full-stop fallacy, it would be literally impossible to have a debate that draws on any kind of outside source for evidence. that isn’t how discussion of science works though! while a source’s expertise in a field doesn’t automatically mean that the evidence is a given, it nevertheless lends credence to it, and thus that evidence reasonably has to be considered.

    please understand your fallacies before attempting to call people on them, thanks in advance

  4. Logic is just a theory, like Evolution, or global warming, or basic human rights. I think we need to hear from all sides on this issue and give them equal consideration. That’s the American way. That’s the Miss American way.

  5. Hi, this is Todd #2.

    You guys don’t know shit. Jesus and Elvis are telling me right now I’m right and you’re wrong. On my summer vacation i’m going straight to the end of this flat earth to get pictures and prove some stuff to you guys.

  6. “I recommend, “klem”, you take some remedial science classes. You could start by watching Carl Sagan’s Cosmos.”

    I watched that when I was a kid. Its the reason I have degrees in science and I am employed in science today.

    Um, how can you tell the good Todd from his evil twin?

  7. See, klem, the logical fallacy you’ve committed there is an Appeal To A Convenient Science Degree. Those are, incidentally, only committed while on the internet using a fake name when no one can check your credentials.

    My point still stands. You need to do some upgrading.

  8. I take it back, klem. You’re a genius. You’ve figured me out. My real name — the one that appears on my birth certificate — is Batmanfan4eva. (My parents are comic book nerds.) “Paul Dechene” is just the handle I use when I’m trolling the internetz.

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